Uhura: And did I not on multiple occasions demonstrate an exceptional aural sensitivity and, I quote, “an unparalleled ability to identify sonic anomalies” in subspace submission tests?
Spock: Consistently, yes.
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korydwen; Thank you for your answer I get it better now :) About Nichols, she said that the sickbay scene was a sort of reenactement of what she told Doohan in his hospital bed after his heart attack and I need to check again but I think she also said most of the Uhotty interaction were her and Doohan's idea. My shipper heart beats more for their little scene on the bridge in the beginning of the movie tbh. The sickbay dialog was actually always weird to me because on the bridge they are clearly dating an |
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korydwen: (cont) and then in sickbay scene they are not. I agree that writers erased it (and my shipper heart bleeds ;_;),and they with no doubt downplayed them because of racism. For the rest (chemistry, dynamic all that jazz) it goes under shipping preference :) (though my main dislike of Spuhura lays on Spock that I truly dislike in the 2009 movie. Like I’m a diehard Kirk/Spock fan but I couldn’t even ship them in reboot previous STID because I could not stand Spock, but I get the impact of a real inte
(cont2) interracial couple for the american audience.) Anyway I really thank you for your answer cause I really had a hard time to understand what was the “grudge” against Uhotty Spuhura shippers had and I get it now. Have a nice day ! :D
You’re welcome :)
as for the rest, again I dunno. Some people had mentioned that Nichelle and James were puzzled by the Scotty/Uhura thing and the way it was handled because it was never suggested in previous movies and the original series nor it was in the intent of the original authors (unlike Spock/Uhura that Nichelle stated was in the intent of Roddenberry to develop if allowed to do so)
I guess just like people can find quotes of her talking about hints of Spock/Uhura and why she supports it, it shouldn’t be difficult to find quotes of her supporting the Scotty/Uhura thing too, if such statements by her exist (I’m not saying it’s not true, just that I never read it).
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thewuzzy; Hey I noticed recently your blog's gone all trekkie, I love it! :D Have you always secretly been such a massive fan or is it new? The 2009 movie is one of my favourites ever and TODAY I FINALLY SAW INTO DARKNESS AND AKSELKAJSKDFLKASAJ IT'S SO AMAZING I LOVE SPOCK SO MUCH *cries* |
recently? my blog had been all trekkie (mainly spock/uhura) since day one xD I used to have another tumblr blog that I never used or used only to save stuff I liked in the the draft because I didn’t get the appeal of this whole tumblr thing. Then last year I started to understand how this thingy works and decided to make this blog and now I’m obsessed about tumblr :/ lol
Spock has kidnapped my heart and soul and I still haven’t got them back.
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korydwen; Sorry I hadn't seen your reply before about the Uhotty thing. I'm not saying it was more progressive than Spuhura, I'm just saying that it was there. The relationship in itself isn't really significant in the movie, I never said the contrary. I'm just saying that saying stuff like "it was never ever done before reboot!" is an exageration because yes Uhura had a white LI in Scotty. It's a step up in reboot (though the real step up is in STID in my eyes) I just wished Uhotty wasn't systematically |
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(cont) erased. Especially when it was a pairing very dear to Nichols’ heart. That’s all. I’m not saying Uhotty was better representation than Spuhura, I never said that and if what I said was interprated that way I apologized, I didn’t express myself efficiently. Uhotty were a thing years ago were interracial representation was even less than today and Reboot stepped up, but did not ‘started’, that is all I’m saying.
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I dunno what to tell you. I don’t know what you’re talking about. *shrug*
I think I already replied to the topic here. This recent meta by spockuhura also eloquently puts my thoughts about the matter as well.
In the movie that I watched (whose script can be still read somewhere online) “uhotty” wasn’t a thing, at all. They had never been developed as a couple. The only romantic interaction between them* is a scene where Uhura is under Subok’s influence and Scotty knows it and he’s unwilling and uncomfortable (<— as per script) and that’s it. It’s never mentioned again in subsequent movies. The only closure you will get for that storyline is offscreen through the old DC comics where they remain just friends and they make it seems that Uhura almost had to apologize to him for her bad behavior saying that she hadn’t been herself (there is a good explanation by Scotty tho about what Sybok did to her and what was the point of the scene that had nothing to do with her being romantically interested about Scotty but more about her feeling lonely and regretting the fact she only cared about a career and sacrificed dreams of having a love and a family too and when “Sybok lifted the burden of guilt” in her, her attention went to Scotty because he was one of her dearest friends and all the crew members were a family for her)
It’s not the fans that “erased” uhotty IMO. It’s the writers who “erased” it, or more correctly they never developed it and they never, actually, made them a couple the way JJ made Spock and Uhura a couple.
I never heard about Nichelle Nichols shipping it either. This is new to me.
Honestly, Scotty/Uhura is not so different than the whole Spock/Leila Kalomi thing. After all, the latter seemed to have some sort of history together and I guess one could say that maybe he actually loved Leila and the spores only made him admit it. Yet, even though they are even more “developed” than Sc/U it doesn’t seem to me that people consider it an OTP because they recognize that he hadn’t been himself and this is the kind of thing that can “taint” a pair.
But I digress, let’s agree to disagree about this :) (I just tried to further explain why many Uhura fans don’t consider “Uhotty” this valid example of progressive interracial pair or good character development compared to rebootUhura. Many see uhotty as yet another example of how fictional women of color are allowed to be a love interest only under some specific “requirements” that usually involve external forces, them being the aggressor and never actually developed romances on screen)
*let me add my two cents about that scene at the beginning pre Sybok before someone mentions it: these people were in their 50/60’s and had worked together on the same ship for a lifetime so they were a family and were very close. This doesn’t mean they were dating or had a romantic interest for one another, unless the script or the writers explicitly states that (and it doesn’t)
Furthermore, how could Scotty and Uhura be already a couple before the scene where she’s under Sybok’s influence if in said scene what convertUhura says clearly implies that before Sybok had “put her in touch” with said feelings she hadn’t acknowledged them and more importantly had never expressed them before. Furthermore, Scotty looked very surprised in a way that suggests she had never acted like that with him and he realized she wasn’t herself asap and tested her (it reminds me of a time where a friend of me I know since 10 years was hitting on me because he was drunk ^^” I’m sure my face looked a lot like Scotty’s there.. )
all those people who complain about bones’ role being diminished in favor of uhura in star trek and star trek into darkness but say nothing about scotty’s bigger role or too long action sequences
this^
I made a thing…Genderbent Star Trek dreamcast:
Commander Spock - Noomi Rapace
Lieutenant Uhura - Idris Elba
lucystillintheskywithdiamonds:
lucystillintheskywithdiamonds:
spoiler about stid don’t read
it never ceases to amaze me how little some fans seem to know about their so called favourite characters.
who bother knowing them when you can project your…
It’s interesting to note how they always want someone to make the choice for Spock.
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lucystillintheskywithdiamonds:
spoiler about stid don’t read
it never ceases to amaze me how little some fans seem to know about their so called favourite characters.
who why bother knowing them when you can project your biased opinions on them and pretend they’re you and share your opinions?
Star Trek Reboot, Matrix AU. I did this 4 years ago(!), but never posted it on tumblr. Am feeling vague stirrings of interest in the fandom again. Uhura is just so cool and all three together are just so much fun!
